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Post by Duo on Jun 6, 2005 16:47:22 GMT -5
Ok, now that people have lost interest in the whole Sex Ed thing...allow me to let us move onto a new debate, which justin just sparked...
Should spanking a child be allowed by law?
*waits to see if people still want to talk about Sex Ed*
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Post by Colloff on Jun 6, 2005 16:58:59 GMT -5
if the circumstances are right, hell yeah, the kid should be spanked. (doesnt want to talk about sex ed anymore for his posts will prolly be deleted or edited)
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Post by Gox on Jun 6, 2005 17:27:31 GMT -5
My final statement on that: Well that IS very true. Perhaps more public awareness ads are needed though. Anyways, spanking a child..........I really don't know Xp Is this law even enforced? Anything more than spanking, NO way. Large amounts of spanking, NO. Any other harsh physical treatment, NO. Unfortunately, there's no real way to measure what's going too far in the world of law. If there wasn't a law against it, it would be done way too much. Heheh....this issue reminds me ALOT of copyright laws. So yes, there has to be a law, but who the hell even cares if it's just a minor spanking. Now if a public teacher or someone gives a spanking, thats a whole different story. It's not their place to physically teach someone else's child.
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Post by Colloff on Jun 6, 2005 18:19:17 GMT -5
they did it back in the old days. but see, thats not the problem, its LACK of physical punishment...PUNISHMENT NOT ABUSE! see, spanking is only resorted to when either nothing else works, or your kid did something that was really bad (vandalize a lawnmower anyone? SAR---)
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Post by Duo on Jun 6, 2005 21:34:59 GMT -5
Exactly, and thats the problems with kids today, if they do something bad...they get sent to their room for about 30 minutes BIG FUCKING WHOOP, most kids have video game systems, TVs, and god knows what else in their rooms, so its like a fucking holiday...but if an action is punished with a spanking or something of the sort, that kid will NEVER do that again... Think about it...I was spanked when I was a child, and look at me now...had I not been spanked..I would probably be some kinda wigger or something... and as justin said sean, its not Abuse were talking about, its a simple one or 2 slaps on the ass, and off you go, thats how kids learn to respect their parents...when I was about 5 and I would talk back to my dad ooooooh I would get one of 2 things, 1) backhanded or 2) put over my dads knee and whipped with a belt, and guess what? To this DAY ive never disrepected my parents...
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Post by Colloff on Jun 6, 2005 21:44:02 GMT -5
i agree with colbs. Plus, kids have their violent video games and some of them have troubles distinguishing reality from fantasy, so they are getting more Fvcked up by playing these hack up everyone while you only get sent to your room video games. Colloff has a story for everyone.
When i was around 4, i told my dad "dad...i'm not gonna clean my room anymore" he asked me to repeat that. i did. his reply was simple "oh...i just wanted to make sure that you were NOT going to before i whoop your ass" and over his knee i went, and i never refused to clean my room again =) it's kinda like smoking...ive never thought about it, but when my sister who shall remain nameless decided she wanted to try it, my dad caught her and made her smoke an entire pack of his Marlboro Reds...that was extra reinforcement =)
final post for the night =)
*cough*FAG*COUGH
yeah...youre right love and care...its all important (this is still my last post lol)
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Post by Gox on Jun 6, 2005 22:10:30 GMT -5
lol, final post for the night ^ From what I remember growing up, I don't ever remember getting spanked or anything. Maybe when I was like REALLY little (2 or 3 years old). But from age 4 or 5 on, I was never punished much. Mainly cause I didn't do anything bad. My mom's method was like logic-teaching or something like that. For example, if I was misbehaving at a grocery store and my mom asked me to stop and I asked why, she wouldn't say "because I said so" She would give the cause and effect details like "because if you misbehave, they'll make us leave the store and we won't be able to eat dinner tonight" or something like that. I guess being an only child also contributed to behaving. I guess we all have our own ways of raising children. More important than even dicsipline though, is love, caring, and giving attention.
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Post by Colloff on Jun 8, 2005 18:56:50 GMT -5
THIS LAND IS MADE OF LOVE AND PEACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but yeah...that is the most important thing about kids...until they are taller than you...then it's important to break their kneecaps...
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Post by The Archetype on Jun 9, 2005 5:36:29 GMT -5
I guess most of us don't do certain stuff because we have been thretened that if we did something bad would happen to us.
Anyhow I do remember getting spanked but not a lot. It all stopped when I hit like 7 where groundation was worse then anything. (Not like it effected me much I had no friends to go see anyhow.) And still. Being grounded nowadays is worse then anything. Months are really long...
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Post by Nadie on Jun 9, 2005 7:39:08 GMT -5
I've never been grounded (or had curfew). It's not nessasary. Those who know me well know that my mother has learned the art of the "Evil eye" and long-winded lecture. (3.5 hours max of lecture can really stupify you...)
But anywho, everyone knows the basic concept of the white mice test right? They have 2 doors for the mouse to choose: one of the doors is set to shock the mouse while the other is hiding the cheese. Since the mind of a mouse is simple (I want cheese) it learns through pain. AKA: This door doesn't give cheese, it give a hell of an "booboo". When your a kid (when reasoning is simple at first, not chain reaction) I think it's the same concept. I don't want "booboo" on my rear, hence avoid doing whatever deserves the spanking.
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Post by Duo on Jun 9, 2005 8:21:01 GMT -5
I think were straying from the main point here, (even though reggie made a very nice example XD) The original debate question was should it be allowed by law, not how and why a child is spanked, of course that is but one piece of the puzzle, but were shooting for the whole jiggsaw here people...
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Post by Colloff on Jun 9, 2005 19:21:56 GMT -5
should it be allowed by law. hell yes. if the issue deserves it, whack away.
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Post by Nadie on Jun 9, 2005 21:00:22 GMT -5
My bad, haha. Frankly, the kid doesn't have reasoning yet so the law shouldn't.
(If the kid is at age of reasoning, it should be handled at home. It's downright embaressing if its in front of strangers let alone classmates)
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Post by Gox on Jun 9, 2005 21:26:03 GMT -5
Again, I say it shouldn't TECHNICALLY be allowed by law, but my honest belief is that it's really ok. Laws don't eliminate anything, they just limit certain actions. People will still do stuff to a certain limit anyways. Any more comments on that, or is it time for another topic? Me thinks new topic.. Ok time for the nitty gritty... -------------------- Abortion. Should it be allowed?------------------- My opinion coming soon when I hav more time^
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Post by Colloff on Jun 10, 2005 21:19:17 GMT -5
sorry...i dont give a damn...i'll post if there's an intriguing comment though
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